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God's Timeless Purpose

A 47-minute talk by Neville Goddard, restored from an archived recording

Neville Goddard discusses the biblical concept of God's timeless purpose working through humanity. He explains that individuals are sons of God who emptied themselves of divine form to experience death and suffering in human form. The lecture covers the descent into generation and the eventual ascent into regeneration, using scripture and personal experience.

Filed under The Promise, The law of assumption and Self-concept.

Key passages

“In the depth of consciousness is the gospel, to an extent, God's timeless purpose working in time.”

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“The human form is the cross. It is the slave.”

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“Your real form, I told you, I can only use words, but how on earth could I tell you of the glory of your form?”

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God's Timeless Purpose

In the depth of consciousness is the gospel, to an extent, God's timeless purpose working in time. When purpose is revealed, all falls into place. The revelation of purpose gives meaning to everything. For that is what we want to touch on tonight. When we read in the 82nd Psalm, I say you are God sons of the Most High all of nevertheless you will die like men does this not imply that you are not men men? If you are men when addressed, then the sentence, you will die like men, is without meaning. You are told you are sons of God, but you will die like men. Now we turn to To Paul's letter. As he wrote it to the Philippians.

Christ Jesus Emptied Himself

Christ Jesus. Who. Though he was in the form. Of God. Did not count it. Necessarily. Or counted something. To be grasped. But emptied himself. And took upon himself the form of a slave. Being born in the likeness of men. And being in human form. He became obedient unto death. Even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted him. and bestowed on him a name that is above all names, that at the name of Jesus Christ every knee should bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God. Now Jesus Christ only claimed he was the Son of God. You were addressed in the beginning as sons of God. Here is now our purpose, the reason for emptying ourselves and becoming slaves.

The Human Form as Slave

The human form is the cross. It is the slave. And we will bear this cross, the allotted span. For we will cry out because we have to completely empty ourselves of the being that we really are. For the being that we really are is one with God. We were in the form of God. Yet we emptied ourselves and took upon ourselves the form of a slave being born in the likeness of men and being in the form of man. Humbled ourselves and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross. Now we are the being spoken of in scripture. This story in the depth of your own conscience is still external. It is taking place without reference to duration, to repetition or to its position in time.

Descending Into This World

It will slowly unfold itself self in each person in this world. As it unfolds itself, the individual knows he is the one who descended into this world and took upon himself the form of a slave that is the human No one can ascend into heaven but he who descended, the Son of Man. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up. this is not your real form you took it for a purpose for this is the form of death you descended into this world that you may taste and experience death when you read in scripture should not the Christ suffer these things and then enter into his glory you and I have the association with the word suffer as grief, pain.

Suffering Means Experience

Look it up in your biblical concordance and you will see that it means to experience a sensation or feeling. There are many words translated suffer. One is to let it be so when he comes before for John and yet he allows it to be so for tradition's sake and he becomes baptized let it be so it's called suffering to be so now but when it comes to the statement should not that Christ suffer these things and then enter into his glory that word is translated to experience a sensation to experience death the immortal you could not know what death is like it could never know the pain of this world until it became one with it to become one with it it had to empty itself of its divine form which was one with God and take upon itself the form of a slave being born in the likeness of man.

The Luminous Body

So he wears it as you will wear a mask. This is a mask. Your real form, I told you, I can only use words, but how on earth could I tell you of the glory of your form? When I heard the choral sing out, this wonderful chorus, never is written. I can only tell you it was a spiral motion. This is 1946. And I am a luminous body. I needed no sun, no moon, no stars. I was light unto myself. And as I walked, or I would say glided by, everything was made perfect because I was circle. Everything that I passed by, though at the moment it seemed imperfect, it was instantly transformed into perfection.

The blind ceased to be blind, the deaf ceased to be deaf, the lame ceased to be lame, and every one was made perfect in that moment as I passed by. That was the form. Eleven years ago, on the 8th of April, when I was lifted up as my body, the cross that I wore, through the senses, at that moment in time it was split in two, from top to bottom. Here I saw how How on earth can you describe this to any person and make sense of it? Here my body is completely split in two. I am looking now at a pool of golden liquid pulsing light. And I know it is myself. As I know it, I the observer, use with it.

Ascending Into Heaven

It is myself. myself, my own redeemer and creator, and yet it is myself, like a self -redemption, a self -created being. And at that moment, like a fiery serpent, I ascended into heaven. You tell a man that he's a fiery serpent, he scares him. He wants to be a man of flesh and blood. He wants exactly what he is made a little bit better, a little bit fonder, a little bit of everything more than he is now. But he doesn't want a radical change of the being that he is. But I tell you the face is human, the voice is human, the hands are human. But do not ask anyone to tell you what the body is.

You will not see. I can only describe the motion that I made when I ascended. And when I entered into this state, it reverberated as we are told in Scripture. He takes it by storm. all. The whole thing was one tremendous reverberation as you enter. That is in store for every one. The descent is into generation. And the ascent is into regeneration. The descent is into death and decay. And the ascent is into everlasting lasting life, but enhanced by reason of the experience of the descent. You were before that the world was, and you were in the form of God. As Paul said, he has made known unto us the mystery of his will according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time.

Scripture Fulfilled Now

It's a plan. This is not some emergency thinking. It's called that the world was. You were. You are the God spoken of. And because you are God and addressed as God when you have this experience you taste of death now this is contemplative when you read scripture do not think for one moment you're reading of something that took place two thousand years ago you're reading it now and they say to him as he began to stumble now he's come only to fulfill scripture what scripture is he fulfilling now Now, in this 10th chapter of John, go to the 21st chapter of the book of Deuteronomy and read these words. If a man has a son who is stubborn and rebellious and will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, they will bring him and shall bring him before the elders of the city and say to the elders this is our son he is stubborn and rebellious and will not obey our word he is a glutton and a drunkard then the men of the city shall stone him to death with stone do you recognize the character in the gospel read it in the 11th chapter of Matthew and so they call the son of man a drunkard and a glutton a friend of sinners of publicans in Harlot and tax collectors.

There is one who said to his brother, what have I to do with these? Then they confronted him in the temple and said, why did you do this to us? Your father and I have been searching for you for three days. And he answered, I must be about my father's business. here no earthly parents do I confess I am doing my father's business they could not understand he was then about 12 years of age they couldn't understand a complete denial of physical ancestry for he knew now for memory began to return to who he really is. He came down to experience death. He bore the cross for the allotted time. Then came that moment in time when the cross was flipped from top to bottom and the spirit trapped set free and the long lost rank restored door.

The Fall Forgiven

I'm the fall forgiven. And now who are my parents? Who are my brothers? Who are my sisters? Those that do the will of him who sent me. Sent me into this world of decay and death that I may experience decay and death. I could not experience it from above. I had to come right down into it and assume soon and be born man. And this is the cross that I wear. So the body that really you gave up, I can't begin to tell you the guilt that is in store for you when you once more pick it up. It's a body of life, a body of power, a body that is all wisdom. You don't have to raise one finger to make eyes of prayer in empty sockets.

You don't take them to a hospital and put little eyes from some eye bank into the sockets. They don't have any little bank for livers and for hands and for missing members. As you walk by, everything is done because you are perfect. You need nothing that mortal man thinks you must. Nothing can remain imperfect in your presence as you walk by clothed in this garment. The garment you gave up. You emptied yourself and then took upon yourself the form of a slave. Being born in the likeness of men. So if I tell you, as I will, I say you are God. sons of the most high all of you nevertheless you will die like men if you are men when I address you that is a stupid remark if you are not men as you are addressed and you are addressed in the divine council then who are you I told you you are sons of God for what then was my fall you've emptied yourself of you gave it up I can only bring back a little shadow of remembrance to you by telling you from my own experience what's in store for you and I use the word serpent it's distasteful to the average person in the world and yet we are told those who shall run the throne of God the seraphim of fiery serpents God's wisest, wisest creation for the seraphim.

When Isaiah said, send me, O Lord, and they came with a coal, put it on his lip, they spoke. It was the human voice. He described them as having hands, human faces, because he did put wings on them. I will tell you from my own experience, you don't need wings. You are omnipresent in such a body. Wherever you would be, there you are. You need no power to take you there. You are power. You are omnipotent. You are omniscient. You are omnipresent. For you do not need anything to take you to any place. That's the being that you are. But you completely emptied yourself of it for this divine purpose. And many a time while wearing these garments, this cross, we cry out.

It seems so heavy. And all the hollers of the world. And we do cry out. Asking to be relieved of it. But you're going to carry the cross the allotted time. When the time is fulfilled, then it's going to be split right down from top to bottom. And at the base you're going to see, and how on earth can I tell you, molten gold will take any form. You have the form. You are the observer. And the minute you look at it, you the form, observing the golden molten state. You fuse with it. And then it takes your form. And you go up into him like a fiery sift. That's the being that you are.

Let no one scare you. Let no one frighten you. If you've got to do this, that and the other. It's already done. this whole thing is already completed you are here as members of a body one body sharing in a purpose for when you go back you are that one body you and I actually form the one body that is God so we the sons of God came down And when we rise, we are God the Father. That's the only way we could experience the Holy, is by shattering ourselves, becoming fragmented, and then going through the entire journey. And in the end, returning. And returning into unity. That unity is God the Father. So when we are told, toning to death, well the stones are only the literal facts of life.

So they pick up stones for stoning. We are told at the end not one bone of his body was broken. What body? The Bible. That is external bottles. May have tried through the centuries to change it. You will find these many editions and they're necessary because overly zealous pride will add and take from and add their own little stupid concept based upon their theory, what they're thinking ought to be. And you'll find among the widest of men, still trying to change the body. But in the end, not one bone is broken. As you're told in Exodus, in Numbers, and in the Psalms. Not a bone is broken. And they came to him, not a bone was broken.

It means that you cannot change. He did not come to change, to abolish the law and the prophets. He came only to fulfill. So he fulfills everything in the world. And you are the one spoken of. You are the Lord Jesus Christ. Until you actually know it from experience, dwell upon it. Just dwell upon it. go to sleep in the consciousness of being. And you will know beyond all doubt in the not distant future, really, who you are. You'll know the truth of the things that I'm talking about. Everyone will. That's why I am here. That's why I've been sent. I've been called and sent Sent in the same way that Paul said he was called and sent.

Identity and Purpose Revealed

In the same way the central figure said, "I have been sent." And when you see me, if you can really see me, you'll see him who sent me. So know the one who sent me when you see me. Because all will be alike. And yet no loss of identity, may I tell you. It's not an absorption, losing your identity. No. No, and yet the same form, that same glorious radiant form that is all -powerful and all -wise. So that's the being that you really are. What does it matter what Oscars you got today or tomorrow? Or what power in the world of Caesar you seem to exercise? That means nothing compared to the being that you really are.

Put all your mind and all your soul upon this one hope that it will unfold in the not distant future within you for that's the only purpose for it all when this purpose is really revealed to you and I'm trying my best to reveal it then everything falls right into place; it gives meaning to the entire picture of life. Everything has meaning if for chance for passing through a crying time. ¶2760|I'm going to ask a friend of mine, you see it tonight, to tell another friend, a mutual friend, this statement from Blake: "They are straight in which all visionary men are accounted madmen." Then he adds this to that thought. "Read Luke the second chapter, the first verse."

If you read the second chapter, the first verse, you will wonder how on earth can he relate that to what he has just said: "That all visionary men are accounted madmen." But if you read the whole chapter, you will see what he is really telling you: that is on your doorstep. It's the birth of the child. The second chapter of Luke, the first verse: "And that is, that the order went out from Augustus Caesar that all the whole vast world must be enrolled — enrolled, as implied, for taxes; they must now be enrolled for the order has come that will." The whole chapter, and you'll see where this now: Joseph, because he was of the line of David, he took his wife Mary up to Bethlehem, to the city of David, and then while she was there her time arrived for the delivery of her son, and then the son is born.

This is preceded by, as Blake said, a form of man. Or he said, "All visionary men are accounted as certain states they are accounted madmen." And then he asked you to read that verse. ¶3001|Blake was not the kind of person that would spell everything out. In fact, he didn't spell anything out. He said to his critic, the great Trusler, the Reverend Dr. Trusler, "You say I need someone to interpret my words. You ought to know that that which can be made clear to the idiot isn't worth my time." And the ancients understood this, and they said what was to clear could not rouse the faculties to act. If you leave it without trying to clarify, then you would simply stimulate the man to think and rouse the faculties to act.

So he doesn't spell it out, but if you read the chapter, you will see what is greatly implied: that a form of madness receives the birth of the child. ¶3131|I know, in my own faith, this goes back quite a few years. Before 1959, I would say four or five years, and if I shared with others what I was feeling within me at the time, it would seem a form of madness. Yet I was talking to an audience of 2,600 on Sunday mornings, and turning away over 1,500. Of proportion, I take that platform, and here I could feel within me just as a woman would feel the struggle of a child within her; but I felt it in my head: this pulsing, pulsing, vibrant state.

Sit down for a moment, and the whole thing is just like a mad, mad state. And I'm talking to intelligent people. I think they are, who came to hear me. And I'm addressing 2,600, and they're turning away 1,500. And I did another theater that sat another 750, and that overflowed. And yet here I am like a woman, a pregnant woman, almost at the end of her time. That's what Blake is talking about. So I'm going to ask my friend to tell her to read that second chapter. And all the symptoms that she's going through now are glorious. So perfectly one, I would not raise one finger to stop. or to divert them. First of all, I couldn't.

It is a panna. So I tell everyone here until this birth takes place you can't return. But it will take place. As we are told no man can enter the new age called the kingdom of God unless he is born from above. But when he is born from above, it will be followed in this manner. As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so will the Son of Man be lifted up. That comes later. The first act, then 139 days later, comes the discovery of the fatherhood of God. and 123 days later making it 262 comes and we are sent into heaven like a fiery serpent and then 998 days later making it 1260 comes the descent of the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove and then the whole thing is over and you are now still there you have borne the father, the allotted friend but you're going to be here to tell it and you will tell it to the very end and that end will come like this.

¶You have told it to encourage those who are on the verge of it. Because everyone has to wear the cross for the allotted strength. And then at the end it is fit that pine is fitting too from top to bottom revealing revealing, and how on earth can anyone tell it more beautifully than Blake told it, at the end of his Jerusalem, almost at the end. ¶Here he is looking at it, and he said, O my divine Redeemer and Creator. He said, I behold the vision of my deadly dreams of 6 ,000 years, circling around thy skirt like a serpent of precious stones and gold. I know it is myself, O my divine creator and redeemer.

I didn't spell it out. I applied tonight to spell it out for you. But you see and you know it doesn't make sense. It's a form of madness. How can you look at molten gold that's pulsing and alive I know it is yourself. You look into a mirror and you will say, I know that's my reflection. That's myself. But to look at this, it has no form. It's golden, molten, liquid light. And yet to know it more surely that it's you. And you know when you look into a mirror. And as you know it, you fuse with it. You are now the mole that it takes. And you know exactly what mode you must have been because the minute you take it up like a fiery serpent you go into heaven and it reverberates like thunder.

That's the being that you are. ¶So when you read the 82nd Psalm which is the most difficult of all Psalms, so claim our scholars. How on earth can we interpret it? We can only guess that. God has taken his place in the divine counsel. In the midst of the Gods he holds judgment. Now he speaks, I say you are Gods. Ones of the most high, all of you. Nevertheless, you will die like them. ¶So when one comes into the world and claims what he does, they pick up stones, for they tell him who his father is on earth. Pick up stones for stoning, and he says to them, for what do you stone for what good works and they say to him for no good work but for your blasphemy for you being a man make yourself God that he say to them is it not written in your law I say you are Gods now he is quoting something 2 ,000 years before and he is quoting it as though it's taking place now.

I say to you, that's what he's telling them, that you are God for it's written in your law, that you are God and scripture cannot be broken. If then he calls you God because you heard the Word of God, Do you say that he whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, that's he because he said, I am the Son of God?

Now he's telling them that they are the sons of God, but they won't believe it. They claim they are the sons of Abraham, born after the flesh. And he's telling them they are the sons of God. but they will not know it until they experience that which he has and so he has suffered these things and to suffer is to experience these sensations to know them from actually things and so they pick up stone they know your father and your mother and your brothers and your sisters and we know all about you and you make these extravagant claims but that's the being that you really are I cannot tell anyone in the world the glory that is in store for them when they are lifted up and they act find themselves flowed in that body but more beautiful than ever that they empty themselves of in order to come down here you didn't begin in any swamp you didn't begin in any little thing called a tadpole these are garments that you annex you penetrated these bodies and annexed the brains of them but you are the sons of God who did it and to do it you can't pretend you're doing it you have to completely empty yourself of your glory to take this form of the cross and you can't retain it but you will have played the unlucky time after you have played it the fullness of time then you will hear the call and you'll hear a lady call me this week she said I went home last Monday night I was thrilled with what you said but I am disturbed for I was talking of the betrayer.

And here is Judas, and I was speaking highly of Judas, for no one could betray a man without knowing the man's secret. For no man knows the secret of God, but the Spirit of God. If he betrays God, he has to know God. He couldn't betray what he doesn't know. And then he quotes Mark. Well again, we find scribes adding to. the same quote that you find in Luke does not quote what Mark does Mark is basically granted but our scribes in transcribing they have to build their own little philosophy of life the only plain story of the betrayal but the word translated woe if you look it up in your concordance it means who, quit, what, death.

In other words, who is that? The same death. Asking about Judas. What will happen to that man? What is that to me? Follow thou me. He knew the secret. And at the very end they did not know the secret. They thought they knew it, but they did not know the secret. And you read stories of the scriptures, and we are told that Joseph was the father. He disappears when the boy reaches the age of 12 and denies the parents. But who is Joseph? We the genealogical in Matthew. It begins, this is the book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David.

Now read the genealogy. Joseph is the father of Jesus. But in the genealogy his father is Jacob. That is, Joseph's father is Jacob. Yet in the dream when the angel appears to Joseph in a dream, he said, Joseph, son of David, pray not to take unto thee Mary thy wife for that which is conceived by her is of the Holy Spirit, but he addresses him as Joseph, son of David, and the book begins, a book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, son of David, but Joseph in scripture is the dreamer; he is the beginning of the forgiveness of sin, for he faith who is borrowed in the end of the great plot which is Genesis, at the very end, the 50th chapter.

You meant evil against them, but God meant it for good, and he forgave them. That's the beginning of the forgiveness of sin. And he was called the dreamer. When the dreamer awakes, he is the Lord Jesus Christ. So he becomes his own father. Follow. And what was Joseph called in Numbers? Moses changed his name from Joseph. It's called Hosea, but Hosea being Joseph. He changed his name from Hosea to Joshua. And Joshua means Jesus. And Jesus is the Lord God Jehovah. Can you see the mystery unfolding? Here, do not be afraid. Joseph, son of David, to take unto you Mary your wife, so he addressed him as the son of David, and the book begins, Jesus Christ, the son of David, but Joseph is the dreamer, and this comes to him in a dream; he is a dreamer.

So the dream begins in the 37th chapter of Genesis, and the dreamer begins to dream that all things will come and bow to him, the sun and the moon and the stars; and then he told his father, Father, to what your mother and I will bow before you? And the brothers could not believe for one moment that eleven stars, meaning the eleven of them, would bow before him; and they plotted a selling into slavery. So they sold him into slavery, as you were sold into slavery. You emptied yourself and became a slave; and the dreamer in you is Yodas, but your toe I will raise up out of your body to whom is he speaking?

He's speaking to David: When your days are fulfilled and you lie down with your fathers, I will raise up your son after you, who shall come forth from your body. If he comes forth from your body, and your name is David, then it's your son; but I, the Lord, will be his father, and he shall be my son. So Joseph is the dreamer, a man. But when he wakes, he is the Lord Jesus Christ. You see the mystery? So who is that? Not woe, you and I have certain associations with words. Here, the word suffer, you think of grief, you think of pain. All it means is simply to experience an Ascension. For joy and woe are woven fine, a garment for the soul divine.

Not all joy, not all woe; they are woven fine in this world. When we eat of the tree of good and evil. And when we come to the end, and then the spirit that was trapped, willingly, is set free by the splitting of the body from top to bottom; and it ascends like the fiery serpent. It is set free, and the long-lost rank which is the son of God is restored. But now a noble he is, the father. He awakes as his father, having gone through the horrors, bearing his portion for the allotted time. Now let us go into the silence. Thank you. Thank you. Good. Now are there any questions please? No questions? Well, until the next time.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.